Thursday, December 9, 2010

A No Win for Democrats

The class warfare which is promoted on a daily basis by liberals and their comrades in the American Pravda is not working with the American people. What we want is jobs and a productive economy, neither of which we've seen in an Obama nation.

Well, at least Obama has come to his senses about extending all the Bush tax cuts, even if his heart is not in it. It's interesting how his rhetoric on the effects of raising taxes in a recession has changed dramatically in the last few weeks.

This is a losing battle for Democrats. If they refuse to agree to this and Americans come home from their jobs in January with smaller paychecks, the fury will be directed at the libs.

This was actually a smart move on Obama's part. In an effort to save his own hide, he is portraying himself as a centrist. We'll see if the public falls for his chicanery. If the economy improves, he will take all the credit for it, and if things don't change, he will place all the blame on the Republicans.

Read from Gateway Pundit:

Large Majority of Americans Favor Tax Cuts… Democrats? Not As Much

Gallup released a poll today on extending the Bush Tax Cuts.
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Two major elements included in the tax agreement reached Monday between President Barack Obama and Republican leaders in Congress meet with broad public support. Two-thirds of Americans (66%) favor extending the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for all Americans for two years, and an identical number support extending unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed.

This may explain why democrats who are facing tough races in ’12 are in favor of the bill.

Related… Via Instapundit: White House: Failure to Pass Tax Cut Compromise Bill Would “Significantly Increase” Risk of Double-Dip Recession. Some Democrats don’t care who goes broke, so long as they get to stick it to 'the rich.'"

13 comments:

JDL said...

He didn't come to his senses.

This is a trap for the GOP. Obama knew his lefty Weiners would not let it go to a vote in the House. So he makes it look like he tried to cross the isle. In the mean time he gets the GOP to agree to another stimulus package and stick it to the Tea Party. So if the GOP pass a package without extending more jobless benefits they are heartless.

If obama keeps his foot on the neck of the economy he can kill any recovery and tell the GOP that the tax cuts do not work.

Nobody is saying that the unemployment rate will go below 9 for the next 2 years anyway.

If anyone thinks Obama is fighting for John Q Public on mainstreet, they do not know him.

Diogenes said...

Figures lie, and liars figure.

And MoreLies just lies, regardless.

This is a gross distortion of American public opinion. The respondents were only offered two choices: extend the tax cuts for everybody, or extend no cuts for anybody. Given only those two options, 2/3 opted to extend.

But, in November, Gallup gave a third option: extend all Bushie's cuts, don't extend them for anybody, or don't extend them for the rich but extend them for the iddle class. With that third option, the resultswere:

40% extend Bushie cuts for ALL
13% let them all expire
44% extend them for everybody except the rich

And look at the results of a Bloomberg poll released on Wednesday:

"In a Bloomberg News poll released Wednesday, nearly 60 percent of Americans surveyed said they favor the elimination of the Bush tax cuts for the richest Americans. One-third said they strongly favor the elimination of the cuts, while 18 percent said they strongly oppose the discontinuation of the cuts."

Figures lie, and liars figure. And MoreLies lies!

Diogenes said...

There's no second stimulus bill, and the Republicans haven't agreed to ANYTHING that they weren't more than willing to accept.

If you're mistakenly referring to the extension of unemplyment insurance beneits as a "stimulus" package, guess again.

You did get one thing absolutely right, though:

"So if the GOP pass a package without extending more jobless benefits they are heartless."

Yep, They are. Whether or not they show the rest of the country how heartless they are is up to them.

"They" don't know him, JustaDumbass? You mean , the way that YOU know him? Based upon all that personal time you've spent with the President? Or based upon your exhaustive analytical academic study of the man?

Or based on some cartoon that some OTHER redneck posted on some Teabagger website?

Don't bother to actually answer those questions, JustaDumbass. They're what those of us with at least a 10th grade education call "rhetorical" questions.

Look it up. Learn a new word today.

Diogenes said...

BY the way, if you really want to complain about "stimulus bills", JustaDumbass, trying taking a look at the largest stimulus bill ever: the tax cuts offered to appease the rightwingnut Republicans. You want to whine about welfare? Whne about the biggest welfare handout ever: the tax cuts promised to the Republican rich.

All that pork makes the extension of unemployment insurance benefits seem insignificant in comparison.

Anonymous said...

DiogenASS: if you keep spinning long enough your head will pop off, thumbsucker.

Diogenes said...

You don't spin, do you, AnonyMoron? You just suck.

JD said...

I'm sure there are no rich democrats in America to take advantage of any tax cuts.
These tax rates have been in place for years. The fact is, no one will get a tax CUT even if the CURRENT tax RATES are left alone.
I don't want anyones taxes to go up, regardless of their income.
Sure, most people don't mind tax increases as long as it doesn't affect THEM. Bums like you want to gang up on the job creators because they have too much money in your lazy ass eyes!!!
They CLAIM the deficit will go up if the rates stay the same. That only means they are going to overspend regardless of the tax rates. And if they somehow do take in more money, it too will be wasted!!! Then when the next economic crisis occurs, liberals will scream for higher taxes again.
IT'S THE NEVER ENDING STORY MORON!!! Liberals are unbelievably stupid.

Diogenes said...

The tax rates were SUPPPOSED to be temporary. They were SUPPOSED to expire at the end of this year. At least, that's what the Republicans told us when they passed them through a Republican-majority House and a Republican majority Senate, and signed into law by a Republican President.

So no, nobody's taxes will go down with this particular tax cut; they'll just keep paying the same artificially-low taxes that they have for the last 7-10 years. Are there rich Democrats who will benefit from the extension of these low taxes? Sure there are. Just because there are more Republicans than Democrats who will gain that advantage doesn't mean that the Democrats won't also take advantage of the situation. And there are some poor Republicans, too; take a look around at al the double-wides in your trailer park, JustaDumbass, and you'll see. Some of the poorest and stupidest Southerners are Republicans. That's why it's more a matter of socioeconomic status, not purely political orientation, that's the issue.

It costs money to give out these tax cuts, JustaDumbass. the cuts were originially based on their expiration this year. If they don't expire, it will costs us hundreds of billions more from January 1 on out. That's a fact. And that money gets added to the deficit. And the ultra rich (the top 1%-2%) have more than enough money in their pockets RIGHT NOW. They've had these supposedly magical job-creating benefits for a decade now, and I have one question:

Where are the jobs?

If handing over MY money to the rich is so damn good for the country, if it creates so many jobs....

WHERE ARE THEY?

The answer? China, Korea, Thailand, India... all those places that we've been outsourcing American jobs for the last decade.

God Bless You, Georgie Porgie! And God Bless the good old United States of Halliburton!

JD said...

And God bless the commie democratic over-regulation and meddling in something they have no clue about. Send all the high paying oil worker jobs elsewhere to appease a bunch of nut job environmentalists who burn just as much damn gas as me. Use just as much electricity as me. Live in a house made of wood while protesting logging. Buy an electric car, with no thought to the energy needed to charge the damn thing. Wearing a fricking dolphin suit that took lots of energy to make, and protesting drilling while standing next to their damn BUS that they drove 1500 miles in to get there. Yea right, demodumasses never drove a job overseas. I've got some nice proerty i want to sell you too!!!
You see, you spineless, shiftless northerner or westerner, democrats want to live off the gov't.
Republicans and tea partiers want to fend for themselves. No handouts, just leave us alone.
The stupidest people in The U.S. by far are liberal morons like you. Unfrickin' believeable.

Diogenes said...

Couldn't you just summarize your positiion, to make it easier on you and us?

"I'm a selfish bastard who doesn't give a shit about anybody else in this world except me and, sometimes, mine. (And mine don't make it if'n I needs the money to feed my twelve-pack a day thirst for Budweiser.)

See how easy and how accurate that is?

JD said...

Stupid is as stupid does. The foolish liberal mind was the topic of my comments. HYPOCRISY. Bitch at what others do while doing the same. Get that wine bottle out of your ass.

Diogenes said...

"Bitch at what others do while doing the same."

Where's the hypocrisy in bitch-slapping you? I'm not the one who's the self-centered intolerant rightwingnut.

JD said...

GIVE ME YOU ADDRESS THEN BITCH.
I'll buy a plane ticket, then you can bitch slap me in person.
Then after your jaw is un-wired and your eyes finally open back up, you can tell the cops all about it.
That is IF you ever regain coherency.
And the "i'm a selfish bastard" thing applies to most of the sorry welfare trash you stick up for. We call them porch monkeys.