Saturday, November 27, 2010

Will He Win in 2012?

Will President Obama pull it out like Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan did, after having low approval ratings during their mid-term elections, yet coming back and winning re-election? It certainly is possible, but in the case of Reagan, he had a clear advantage over Obama. His policies to turn around a sick economy were effective ones, whereas Obama's are ass-backwards.

Clinton, on the other hand, had the help of a Republican Congress which got government spending under control. Then Slick Willie took the credit for their leadership and won a second term. Obama could do the same with a conservative House.

Anything is possible. Two years is a very long time in politics. Wasn't it just two years ago that we were told conservatism is dead? Now, thanks to Barack Obama, conservatism is alive and thriving.

One thing is for certain: Obama is one fine salesman, and America is full of a whole lot of gullible people. But, have they learned their lesson and recognized that they elected a snake oil salesman? Only time will tell.

Byron York analyzes Obama's chances for victory in 2012. Read from the Washington Examiner:

Obama's poll numbers point to his defeat in 2012
By Byron York

"We're fast approaching the halfway point in Barack Obama's term. With Nov. 2 behind him, everything the president does will be calculated to boost, or at least not harm, his chances of re-election in 2012. What's not clear is whether he fully appreciates how badly the coalition he led to victory in 2008 has frayed in just two years. A look inside his poll numbers suggests that if he cannot turn around some key trends, he'll be a one-term president.

Just look at the exit polls from 2008, which reveal the demographic contours of Obama's support. Compare those with Gallup's weekly analysis of the president's approval rating, drawn from multiple polls broken down by age, gender, political philosophy, and the like. Throw in some insights from the midterm elections, and the mix shows a dramatic deterioration in Obama's 2008 support. 'His majority coalition is not there,' says Republican pollster David Winston. 'What he put together, at least in the way he put it together, just isn't there.'

Start with voters who call themselves independents. Obama won 52 percent of them in 2008; now, according to Gallup, he is at 42 percent. Obama's party as a whole fared even worse among independents in the midterms, losing them to Republicans by 19 points. If Obama does anywhere near that badly in 2012, he'll lose.

Next, women. In 2008, Obama won 56 percent of female voters. Today, he's at 49 percent. If that number doesn't improve, he'll be in deep trouble. (Obama is also down with men, from 49 percent in 2008 to 44 percent now.)

Even younger voters, a key part of Obama's coalition, are peeling away. In '08, Obama won 66 percent of voters 18-29 years of age. Now, he's at 58 percent. That might seem pretty good, but not when you consider his deterioration among other age groups. Obama has dropped 5 percentage points among voters in and around middle age, and 8 percent with voters above 65. If those trends continue, he'll lose.

Then there are white voters. In '08, Obama won 43 percent of whites. Now, he's at 37 percent -- a dangerously low number for his re-election hopes. He won 67 percent of Hispanic voters in 2008; now, he's at 58 percent. Even support among black voters, a bedrock for Obama, has ticked downward; after winning 95 percent of blacks in '08, he's now at 89 percent.

Just one group has stuck with Obama through it all. In '08, he won 58 percent of people with graduate degrees. Now, he's at 59 percent. It appears that academic types will be with Obama always, but they're not enough.

Everyone expects some of Obama's lost voters to come back in 2012. 'Presidential elections are different from midterms,' says David Winston. 'You'll see a slightly larger turnout among younger voters, a slightly larger turnout among African-Americans, making the electorate a little more liberal. But everybody across the board turns out at higher rates.'

And that includes conservatives, of whom there are more every day. Gallup has found that the number of people who call themselves conservative has gone up sharply since 2008, 'fueled by heightened conservatism among independents.'

'He's got to realize the reason he lost independents,' says Winston of the president. 'He thinks it was about communications. It wasn't. It was about substance and policy.' Whether Obama can gracefully back away from the policies that got him in trouble -- federal spending, Obamacare -- is simply not clear.

Obama supporters point to the example of Bill Clinton, whose approval dipped to 40 percent after losing Congress in 1994, only to climb to 54 percent before winning easy re-election in 1996. Maybe that will happen again.

But Clinton's former pollster, Doug Schoen, doesn't see it that way. Schoen recently did a survey asking voters whether Obama deserves to be re-elected and found that 56 percent believe the president doesn't deserve another term, while just 38 percent believe he does.

Despite his problems, there are still ways Obama can win. His greatest hope, as always in politics, is that the other side will screw up. Maybe the newly empowered House Republicans will do a terrible job, or the GOP will nominate an awful presidential candidate. But that just underscores a stark reality. At this point, it will be hard for Obama to save himself. He'll need a lot of help to win a second term in the White House."

11 comments:

Diogenes said...

"Now, thanks to Barack Obama, conservatism is alive and thriving."

No, sorry, MoreLies, conservatism is not alive and thriving. The 2010 election wasn't about choosing Republicans over Democrats, it was about choosing new faces over incumbents. And, since more incumbents were Democrats than Republicans, the majority shifted in the House.

Voters are unhappy about the economy, and they took it out on the guys who were in Congress at the time.

But please, by all means, convince yourself that America is turning rightwingnut. And nominate the most hardline rightwingnnut you can find in 2012.

And Barack Obama will be sworn in for his second term on January 20, 2013.

JD said...

The kenyan has awakened many Americans to the radical leftwing zealot agenda.
Left wingers have long relied on average Americans being too busy working and raising families to pay attention to what was happening around them. Taxpayers are now tired of the reckless spending in govt.
Face facts moron, most obama supporters think there is a pot of free gold waiting for them.
You see, obama panders to slugs and thugs. Which one are you?

Diogenes said...

Again, you offer an unsupported position that "most Obama supporters think there is a pot of free gold waiting for them."

I don't think that, and never did.

Not one of my fellow volunteers that I've spoken with have ever expressed that thought.

So I guess you're basing your opinion on that handful of loons that circulated on YouTube?

Or is it based on your extensive interactions with the millions of lazy welfare queens that you've discovered?

Please, wake me when you have something intelligent to say.

JD said...

As far as i can see, people who think like you have driven many states and the entire country as a whole into bankruptcy.
And the BRILLIANT solution?
Just keep taking more from those who DO, and give to those who DON'T.
Who else would support a tax and spend commie dem other than someone with something to gain from it? Welfare trash and union thugs think this way. Hollywood idiots think this way because they are in a bubble, shielded from reality. But most of them KEEP their own money, only showing up at some charity event for a token appearance to make themselves look good.
I grew up around many welfare recipients. I still see it everyday. Lazy, drunk, screwing thugs. White and black alike.
My opinion is not an opinion, but a fact from years of being an eye witness.
Your supposed facts are nothing but YOUR opinions, not based on real experiences, but from the rachel dyke maddow show or from your clan of fellow fools.
There is intelligent life on this planet other than some pencil necked democrat who can't tie his own shoes without gov't help and instruction.

Diogenes said...

You're really a sad, almost tragic, figure, JustaDumbass. You are so clueless, and so full of hate for your fellow man... and so gullible to buy into the complete line of rightwingnut redneck bullshit.

Good luck living your life that way. You must be quite the life of the annual Christmas partydown at the sewage treatement plant.

JD said...

Sorry, i'm not a pathetic, lazy govt worker like you. I am self employed.
And i'm sorry for your foolish, highbrowed, liberal zealot existence.
I'll bet the reason you wanted to be a teacher is so your gay sexual preferences will keep you closer to young boys.
I don't have hate for my fellow man, but many of them who benefit from my work hate me. I'm just tired of pulling the wagon while you and your thug friends ride and smoke dope.

Diogenes said...

Awwwwwww thanks so much for pulling my wagon, JustaDumbass.

But isn't that what asses are supposed to do? Isn't that what you're trained for?

Are you sure people hate you because of your job? I would think that, if my septic tank overflowed, I'd be glad to see you!

Maybe people hate you NOT because of your ob, but because you're you? Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

DiogenASS: the truth is shit-bag thumbsucker.

The majority of Americans hate and despise liberals and all the vile homosexual crap that goes with them!

That means you, shit for brains!

Diogenes said...

AnonyMoron, you better get some therapy about that homosexual issue you have inside you.

Why is it that only the rightwingnuts manage to link liberalism with homosexuality, every time? I mean, c'mon, we're all adults. We've all seen "Deliverance". We know redneck rightwingnuts' adoration of guys that can squeal like a pig!

C'mon, do it just once for us, AnonyMoron. It'll be fun!

And by the way, the majority of Americans do NOT "hate and despise liberals" or homosexuals. For most of us, homosexuals have no impact on our lives whatsoever. How come you're so fixated? All those latent tendencies making you hate yourself?

How sad.

Get therapy.

JD said...

It is the envy created by rich liberals that causes the "poor" to have contempt for those who succeed.
I'll say it one more time for slow idiots like you.
A person who is successful is not always evil and greedy. Maybe they just tried harder and made good decisons.
A person who is poor is not always a victim of oppression. Maybe they didn't try very hard and made poor decisions.
It seems you look down on people who actually use their hands and skill to earn a living.
Unless you have no house and ride a horse, you have benefited from from the skill of such people. I guess you grow your own food and produce your own power as well. Make your own clothes too?
These people, not YOU or obama, power this country.
Stop throwing your tampons in the toilet and maybe your sewer won't get stopped up as much. Plumbers make A LOT more money than a lowly teacher, by the way. Try trade school, Maybe a beauticians carrier is in your future.

Diogenes said...

I never once suggested, or even thought, that any rich person is evil. Rich people who arrogantly think that they and they alone are solely responsible for their good fortune -- and that they don't owe the society they thrive in ANYTHING -- they're the evil ones.

And you're right, there are certainly poor people who are poor because they didn't try very hard or make poor decisions. But there are a lot of people who are poor who will BE poor, from cradle to grave, and it has nothing to do with their choices and everything to do with the opportunities they've had.

And besides, I don't think you're evil, JustaDumbass. You're not rich enough or smart enough. You're simply a Dumbass, with a capital D.