Monday, October 25, 2010

From One Who Knew Him Well

When Barack Obama wrote in his first book: "I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets," he was not kidding.

Meet his college classmate from Occidental and hear what he has to say about Obama's political views. From Weasel Zippers:

Obama’s Classmate at Occidental College: “He Was Looking Forward to an Imminent… Revolution, Where the Working Class Would Overthrow the Ruling Class”…

"He’s obviously not a Socialist anymore, just look at the way he’s governed…no, wait…

Via Doug Ross:


'Dr. John Drew was a classmate of President Obama’s at Occidental College. He was interviewed last week by Paul Kengor on The Glen Meakem Show, and I took time to transcribe most of the podcast because of its importance.

Q: …John, you had told me before, and I’m reading from my book, that “Obama was already an ardent Marxist in the fall of 1980 when I met him. I know it’s incendiary to say this, but although he said in Dreams From My Father that he’d ‘hung out with Marxist professors’, he did not explain in that book or clarify that he was 100% in total agreement with those professors.

A: Yeah, you’ve got that exactly right. Obama believed, at the time I met him, this was probably around Christmas time in 1980. I’d flown out on Christmas break from Cornell, where I was in grad school. And Obama was looking forward to an imminent social revolution, literally a movement where the working classes would overthrow the ruling class and institute a kind of socialist Utopia in the United States. I mean, that’s how extreme his views were his sophomore year of college.

…I was a comrade, but I was more… the Frankfort School of Marxism at the time. I was, I felt like I was doing him a favor by pointing out that the Marxist revolution that he and Caroline and Shandu were hoping for was really kind of a pipe-dream. And that there was nothing in European history, or the history of developed nations, that would make that sort of fantasy, that Frank Marshall Davis fantasy of revolution, come true.

Q: So you had a realistic sense that, even though you liked these ideas, that you knew they wouldn’t really work?

A: Right… [There were some] who were puzzled why they didn’t see Marx’s predictions come true, and weren’t interested in the role of psychology or false consciousness in preventing a revolution from happening. I was a card-carrying Marxist, but I was more of an east coast, Cornell University Marxist at that time.

Q: But Obama thought it was practical. He thought it could happen in America?

A: Oh, yeah! He thought I was a little reactionary… or insensitive to the coming needs of the revolution! He was full-bore, 100% into that very, kind of simple-minded Marxist revolutionary framework
.'


There’s lots more, Doug Ross has the rest…"


Not a Marxist, eh, Diogenes?

7 comments:

Diogenes said...

So, let's look at this...

This Drew guy says he was in grad school at Cornell when he met Obama during one Christmas break.

And, even though they attended the same college, at different times, this somehow made Drew a "classmate" of Obama's, according to some rightwingnut blogger?

And now, our hostess rightwingnut blogger, decides that this Drew guy is not just "a classmate" but Obama's "college roommate"?

Accuracy isn't your strong point, is it, MoreLies?

Debra Moore said...

My mistake. Thank you for pointing that out. It's been corrected.

Diogenes said...

Ahhh, but you only corrected YOUR mistake. The guy wasn't ever a classmate of Obama's -- Drew left Occidental and went to Cornell before Obama ever arrived on campus. So Drew got his intimate knowledge of the inner workings of Obama's brain during a Christmas break thirty years ago!

And THAT'S only if you choose to believe Drew. Do you have any independent knowledge of Drew? Did you even HEAR of Drew before this? How do we know Drew isn't lying like many rightwingnuts lie?

Answer: you don't. You accept this story without any sort of proof simply because it casts Obama in a bad light... and that's your only goal. Any means to achieve your rightwingnut end, eh, MoreLies?

Debra Moore said...

No, I don't know for sure that this guy is legit, but it is worth mentioning because there is a pattern here.

Obama has surrounded himself with radicals for decades. It was in his own words that he said he looked for Marxists, and over the years these radicals stuck to him like glue.

So, Diogenes, how do you classify yourself? Are you a socialist, Marxist? What say you?

Diogenes said...

Socialism or communism ON PAPER might be the most humane form of government out there. Unfortunately for socialism and communism, however, governments don't stay on paper. They have to live in the real world. And,in the real world socialism and/or communism has never been successful and probably never would be successful. And I wouldn't in a million years suggest that the United States should even attempt to try it, even as an experiment.

But I'm also quite sure that unfettered unregulated free market laissez faire Social Darwinist capitalism isn't anywhere near an ideal state, either. There are way too many important societal needs that won't be met if we depended solely on the good graces of the financially elite.

Anonymous said...

DiogenASS: If you don't like the freedoms America has to offer, I'm sure there are plenty of socialist countries that would grant asylum to a leftwingloon such as yourself.

Nobody in America will miss you, I can assure you of that!

Diogenes said...

Who said I didn't like "the freedoms America has to offer"? because I said I was "quite sure that unfettered unregulated free market laissez faire Social Darwinist capitalism isn't anywhere near an ideal state, either"?

Big -- and faulty -- assumption, AnonyMouse. Per usual.