Monday, August 2, 2010

Welfare Scam in Illinois

Our government is broken. We need change all right, but certainly not any of the nonsense President Obama has offered.

While hard-working Americans are busting their butts to provide for their families, read about an instance of how one family is taking advantage of the system. Keep in mind, this is being done with our tax dollars.

From Atlas Shrugs:

Obamaland: The Welfare State and the Road to Serfdom

"The working get poor and the non-workers get rich off the backs of the producers. Disgusting.

Things are getting out of hand! This letter came from a doctor in Danville, IL.

Dear Mr. Limbaugh,

I was speaking to an emergency room physician this morning. He told me that a woman in her 20’s came to the ER with her 8th pregnancy. She stated 'my momma told me that I am the breadwinner for the family.' He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money for the family. The scam goes like this: The grandma calls the Department of Child and Family Services and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for these children. DCFS agrees and states that the child or children will need to go to foster care. The grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and thus receives a check for $1500 per child per month in Illinois. Total yearly income: $144,000 tax-free, not to mention free healthcare (Medicaid) plus a monthly 'Linx' card entitling her to free groceries, etc, and a voucher for 250 free cell phone minutes per month. This does not even include Wick and other welfare programs. Indeed, grandma was correct in that her fertile daughter is the 'breadwinner' in the family.

I hope you share this story with your listeners so that they know how the ruling class spends their tax dollars.

Also, many thanks for the fine service you provide in educating people about the merits of conservative thinking.

Cheers,

Sebastian J. Ciancio, M.D. Urologist, Danville Polyclinic, LTD.

48 comments:

Diogenes said...

This has all the makings of a bogus internet lie.

No mention of this doctor's letter on Limbaugh's site... only the ultracrazy Geller and other rightwingnut crazies. No names attached to the ER doc or to the patient. No substantiation of any kind.

And the kicker? The kind of thing that pranksters love to play in jokes like this? Geller ripped it off from another rightwingnut blogger:

http://www.desertconservative.com/2010/08/01/welfare-fraud-at-its-worse/

And that original blogger says that it was "submitted" by someone named Edward Moore.

Now, how would someone named Edward Moore get ahold of a letter sent by a Dr. Ciancio to Rush Limbaugh, in order to send it to some obscure rightwingnut blogger who lent it to Geller?

Oh, and the "inside joke"? Ever hear of Edward Moore? No?

How about Edward Moore Kennedy?

This has prank written all over it! And yo fell for it, Ms. MoreLies. You don't even have enough integrity to state -- as some of your rightwingnut blogger buddies have stated -- that this has not been verified as true.

Why not?

Because you don't CARE if it's true or not.

Your purpose is to cut & paste ANYTHING that shows Obama and/or liberals, REGARDLESS of whether it's true or not.

Diogenes said...

Just noticed another potential "inside joke" in this nonsense:

How ironic that a urologist would be supposedly be sending a letter complementing a walking Viagra ad like Limbaugh!

JD said...

Once again, the stupidity of the left, and you personally, is on display. You must live in a bubble to not realize that this is a reality. These people know how to work the system. Having more babies is THE way they get more benefits. In my state, over 30% of the population get entitlements. I see the nice SUV's at the welfare and wick offices. I see the snap cards used at grocery stores by well dressed people wearing 1000.00 worth of jewelry, then rolling their FREE food out to an Escalade or Explorer with 5000.00 worth of aftermarket wheels and tires. But these are POOR people who need help. No, they have babies out of wedlock. This is the product of liberal mentality and the entitlement system. Unwed births are very high for a reason. FREE money and benefits for life are achieved this way. This is also the reason for high school dropout rates. The parents don't care about the children, they're just a check in the mailbox.
All this is the plan of liberals. Take Headstart for example. They kids are sent off to Headstart at 3 yrs old where they are fed 2 FREE meals a day, WHILE the parents get get a FREE snap card to feed the kids the same meal. Double money for the SAME meal. Starting to see the light yet moron!!! Then when they start K-12, they are fed 2 FREE meals at school, WHILE the parents get a snap card for the SAME meal. During the summer, buses pick-up these kids twice daily and they are driven to the school for another round of double paid for FREE meals. The parents then trade off the snap money for around 50 cents on the dollar for beer, cigarettes or just cash and store owners gradually filter the snap money back out. I have no problem feeding a disadvantaged child. My problem is with the corrupt, so called parents of these children and a corrupt gov't stealing taxpayer money to fund this madness. It happens, whether your liberal eyes are fogged over or not. WAKE UP LIBERAL IDIOTS!!!

Diogenes said...

Hey, go help yourself to a free meal at a Title I school, JustaDubass. But call ahead and let them know if you want lobster or king crab, and how you want your fillet mignon cooked.

You're such a busy guy, how is it that you have time to stake out the local welfare officeand see all the Escalades and Explorers? (First time I've heard those two vehicles lumped into the same luxury category.)

In your state, over 30% of the population receive government entitlements. Entitlements? You mean, like Medicare? Yeah, damn those old people! You plan on turning down Medicare when you turn 65, moron? Yeah, I thought so.

Admit it: you haven't seen this stuff, JustaDumbass. All you're doing is mindlessly repeating urban myths that have been fed to you by angry white Archie Bunker wannabes.

All mouth and no brains, that's you, JustaDumbass.

JD said...

I have and do see this happen most every day.
School buses run here every weekday during the summer too.
You see, i happen to know people who work in these schools also, Guess they just pass the time lying to me about all this stuff that happens.
I guess an Explorer costs about what a base line Kia does too huh?
My sister-in-law happens to drive a loaded out Tahoe. 42000.00 worth.
Her husband owns a trucking company, makes pretty good money too. But somehow they managed to get the birth of their child picked up by medicaid. Then they had the nerve to brag about it. The kid gets wick and foodstamps to this day, 3 years later. Still on medicaid too.
Don't tell me i'm making this stuff up. It's in my own family, and i have the right to be pissed about it.
What YOU perceive as reality is just that, perception, not reality.

Debs said...

Sucker! You have been had, and you probably don't have the balls to admit it and allow this post! Just proves the right wing zealots care more about winning than being right. Is that what you teach your children? Feel sorry for you, really.

JD said...

No, it's what liberal, on the welfare dole rats and people like you who are on fantasy island think is real.
What i speak of happens daily in my state and every other state.
Looks like diodummy has a new friend.

Diogenes said...

JustaDumbass, there's no doubt that there is fraud in ANY system, public or private. But to extrapolate from your sister-in-law's alleged fraud to society as a whole is silly.

Are you really that pissed off? Must be a terrible state for you to be in! Does it bug you that your brother-in-law drives a nicer truck than you do? Or that he wouldn't give you a job?

What do school busses have to do with welfare fraud? What does knowing "people in these schools" have to do with welfare fraud?

JD said...

I never stated what i drive.
I don't need a job from my brother-in law.
You really are a dense person.
My explanation of school buses and school lunchrooms open during the summer could'nt have been more clear.
Taxpayers are paying double money for the same meals.
It stands to reason that if a child gets free lunches at school, then their parents get food stamps also.
It should also be clear that food stamps don't stop when the kid gets a free breakfast and lunch at school. Double money for the SAME meal.
And you have stated that welfare and medicaid recipients can't possibly drive expensive vehicles.
It happens every day. Major fraud happens every day.
Liberals refuse to acknowledge this. If you don't admit that it happens, then i guess it don't happen.
Stop drinking the koolaid idiots.
Your little gravy train may soon run out, because fraud like this can't be sustained.
Not all school employees are liberal morons like diodummy.
They see this theft and don't like it anymore than i do.
I you can't understand my latest explanation diodummy, just go wacth the gay logo channel, you'll feel better.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't have to be true It just sounds good....get rid of Obama b 4 he ruins this country

Anonymous said...

The wellfare scam is ALIVE AND WELL! As a person unemployed for over a month now I have visited the Villa Park office 3 times. I registered online and the letter I received told me the paperwork to bring. We I arrived for my 8:30am interview I waited for 1 hour to be called. Only to be told I did not bring several docs which I showed them were not on the list.

I returned a few days later with the remaining paperwork and again waited an hour or more to be told I also needed a letter of "financial management". I was told this was a simple letter that needed to be typed and signed saying I would pay my mortgage/rent by borrowing money from friends and family.

I returned the following day, checked in, waited an hour and a half to find the office closing! When asked who I was there to see I gave the name of my case worker and they told me he was not in!!!

Now, I need to return a 4th time and watch a line of every minority (oh wait in this line I AM) getting $ for food! Yet after a month + I still have received NOTHING.

Here is what I have witnessed - black, mexican and indian are the main groups in line. I even watched a mexican woman with 4 kids, when asked for ID produce a mexican passport! She is here "visiting" but seeking $ for food and health coverage!! WHICH SHE RECEIVED!!!!!!!!!

Try that on your next trip to Mexico if you dare!!!!

Next - case workers are on a first name basis with a lot of these people! I lost my job in July and began doing every and any thing to find one and did in one month!! AND I DID!!!!!!!! These lazy bastards find it easier to let IL take care of them!

What is more, (and this kills me the most) all most every one in line (adults) is overweight! No one and I mean no one is even close to starving! Maybe Michelle Obama should focus on food stamps only providing for HEALTHY food because these people are eating really bad but very often!

In conclusion, it is obvious how the system works - pay those who do nothing to vote by feeding and caring for them so they can continue on! Meanwhile let those like me who find jobs (even little ones that earn some money day to day) suffer so they can care for those who would rather suck off of those who work hard whenever they can!

Before you argue with me on this - go sit at the nearest DHS office and tell me you see otherwise.

I watched people with Blackberrys ignoring the signs about no cell phones! They can afford that and a Blue Tooth but not FOOD! ARE WE KIDDING OURSELVES!!!!!!!

NOVEMBER PLEASE COME SOON!

Anonymous said...

I too, as a healthcare worker, have seen the brand new vehicles driven by folks who supposedly have less than I do while I work and drive my 1999 Mercury Sable. These folks are getting "free" care at our clinics and don't care who is paying. I am most definitely not referring to to our dear elder population who gave us the freedom we enjoy in this generation. Clearly, whether liberal or not, any sane person realizes that with fewer people earning and more people taking we will go the way of Rome with a huge bureucracy that will one day be unable to support itself and will colapse. Then, socialism, marxism will enter the stage... that is the radical left agenda... don't get bogged down by these stories... fight for freedom, the republic and the right to choose for the people and by the people.

Robert said...

We have too many people in need with out needed to take care of those that can’t or won’t pull their weight. I say earn the right to have what you need, if you have earned the right that we got you covered, if not well you not going to get help so easy. On the other hand if you don’t feed the hungry, treat the sick, educate the uneducated, and check as much poverty at the door here in our great nation then when you open your door to leave your fine home guess what you are going to see? Yup that’s right hungry kids and families like a third world nation. Don’t treat the sick, open your door bam your sick or your kids are sick. Don’t educate then the next generation will with out the smarts to keep us strong. I care for my family, my friend’s family, and others in this great nation, I’d rather see folks being taken care of than the dark side in my streets and neighborhood. Travel a mile in the shoes of those in need before you pass judgment. Tighten up hell yeah we need to get control but there is not one person that has sold any idea how to do this Left or Right. We have challenges ahead of us… not me, not you…WE! When everyone stops saying my side, your side that we can make it work, but until then we are all throwing stones of righteousness at glass houses. No I don’t have answers I am just a fool in the middle, or what use to be the middle. Bottom line we love our country and want the best for us and our family we can all agree on that right?

Anonymous said...

Two comments:
1. Yes, some people scam the system, but all of the wellfare, wic etc. scams combined don't add up to a single Halliburton scam. Why is the right so quiet about things like that or the pallets of billions of dollars in cash sent to Iraq that "disappeared?"
2. These abuses of the system were just as common when Generalissimo El Busho was in power, and under Clinton and even under Reagan! Remember he campaigned against "welfare queens" in 1980.

Apparently the only scams that upset the right wing-nuts are those committed by people of color when a democrat is president. Where is the outrage at the scams wayyyyy bigger but committed by old white guys?

B

Anonymous said...

lazy ass people,get a job

Anonymous said...

thing s may get alittle dirty here on earth!!!

Anonymous said...

LET'S GET ONE THING STRAIGHT - SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE ARE NOT "ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS." These are programs that have been funded by mandatory deductions from our paychecks, EVERY payday of our working lives. THAT MONEY is NOT GOVERNMENT money being GIVEN away - it is OUR money that has been hijacked and spent instead of being held for us as was promised when the program was started. President Johnson (a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT) removed the last barrier to government access to these funds when he moved collected Social Security and Medicare funds from their dedicated accounts and put them in the general accounts for all of the Liberal Congress to to use for whatever they wished. ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS are programs that are funded by TAX dollars from working people's paychecks - the recipients of those TAX funds have in all likelihood contributed NOTHING to the fund and are, in most cases, leeches on society. They don't work, won't work, and won't go to school to better themselves. The education and opportunities are there - they just have to expend some effort to secure them.

Anonymous said...

I read these comments, and it astounds me to see the total denial of the liberals regarding the comments on welfare fraud. I have been a cop in Los Angeles for over 34 years, and I see it ever day. The state is paying for women to sit at home and have kids. The larger the family the more they get. Bottom line those that have ID can work the system to take home big bucks for free. They drive newer & nicer cars then I can afford... Their kids are transported to nice communities and they get free breakfast and lunch. My kids do not eat as well. I use to see mostly black and Hispanic taking advantage of the system, but in the last few years I have seen the Russian gangs and other immigrants working the system like big dogs. A recently the LA Times discovered that hundreds of millions in aid was being spent on vacations & gambling. Blackberry phones… LOL … Small time compared to the misuse of the funds ear marked for aid to the poor... Let’s not even start on the amount of aid that is spent on alcohol and illegal drug usage... It’s sad but California has become a welfare state and is not capable of change!!!! There are too many low income voters who will continue to vote in the politician who will give them the biggest hand outs.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nacac.org/adoptionsubsidy/stateprofiles/illinois.html

This "urologist" is obviously a very sad man who has the need to persecute others to make him feel his place in society is more meaningful.

Anonymous said...

To JD:

How on earth do you "see" the escalades pulling out of the parking lot at the welfare offices? Do you spend time watching this? You are full of crap... and making assumptions because you are obviously an angry and ignorant soul. Sad for you.

Anonymous said...

Well if you folks are so upset about this kind of shit, then call your Congressmen and women, call your represenatives in the Senate and so on. Lead a campaign against this kind of shit and see how far your ass gets. You start trying to change the system and the system just changes you because there will be no change, weather conservative or liberal, this makes no difference. Big Corporations control the country, big oil, big pharmecuetical, etc..

The senate, the house, governor, president, they have no real power. Come on. There is a shadow government people. We live in a matrix. This is by design. This is to keep you in control.

Nothing will change until the Empire falls.

Anonymous said...

Wow, it is so amazing how all of these simple minded people can actually live in this country and be so blind to what is going on around them!! Do any of you watch educational programs like Discovery channel? When the show Gangland comes on, you can actually SEE with your own eyes these low life gang members in their doo rags and bandanas covering their faces holding up WADS of cash from thier drug sales and you think they don't abuse or manipulate the system?!! WAKE UP!! Our Government is the biggest group of Liars, Cheats Beggars and Thieves on the PLANET!!! I'm sick of working 50-60 hours a week to pay for someone elses kids and family. I have no kids!! I'm the middle class guy that gets screwed every time. And for all of you non believers, the information is anywhere for you to see for yourselves. The internet, the Library, newspapers etc. The reason you are all illinformes is because you choose to be. You defend this system because it is your lifeline and you DO NOT want to see it go away because you'll be forced to kick in and pull your own weight! This is not a left or right wing issue it's an issue that affects ecery hard working contributing citizen in this whole United States!! and it has to stop!! Thank God for people like me who have served our great country and then came back into civilian life, has held a job for over 20 years since being discharged, so the lowlife lazy generation can collect thier welfare checks.

Anonymous said...

I had to skip to the bottom to comment after reading so many comments. We've got low income housing in our town, govt assisted families paying virtually no rent, given free/reduced lunches, free after care, and tutoring on site...all subsidized! Meant to integrate low income with better income society, it has only brought down our education system and community here in Mt. Laurel NJ. Test Scores have dropped and graffiti has risen. Teaching has become less and disciplining more. I have witnessed many expensive cars dropping off children at school who I know live in these projects. These residents are also well dressed and have the most misbehaved children in the school. They make a stink when teachers reprimand their children!!! My daughter has befriended a family whose children have better jewelry and clothing than my kids and my husband makes $400,000/ year!!! Law has demanded that 1500 more of these homes be made available. What choice do successful people have? If you work hard enough to move your family to a good town, good school system, only to have the ghetto mandated to be built a mile away! Why has America become the land of entitlement??? I am all for programs that get people back on their feet, but it seems like too many are freeloading losers. How do we begin to solve this problem.

And...my own sister is a fraudulent freeloader. She has 3 babies with a man who earns plenty of money to support them all, and does in a big how with new cars. They choose not to get married so that she can get health insurance for all kids as a filed single mother of 3...

Anonymous said...

Have to agree that we have become a nation of entitlement, when we should be receiving what we have put into the system. People who contribute should get our nations benefits. I think we all can agree to that. I do know that the grocery carts of the WIK / Foodstamp family is bigger than my single income, coupon yielding penny pinching family, and that pisses me off.

Gary Seidel said...

I don't know if the above situation is true or not. I do know about "crazy" money. That is where a person either coaches their kids to act crazy, or their kids really are, but either way they coach them to act up. Then they will get labeled in school as requiring special ed. (call it what you like). This then entitles the kids to get about $800 per month sent to the parent, via our SSI payments.

Throw in free health care, food stamps, energy assistance, and more, and you have a pretty good deal going with crazy money.

I was on a School Board, and heard this from teachers who were frustrated. And we wonder why some kids act up all the time.

Anonymous said...

DOCTOR did not mention Senator Frisk's Company HCA and Billion dollar Medicare FRAUD Case(supreme court). And that didn't include all their Hospitals? Suppose thats OK. No one knows how to better work the system than the wealthy...Look how they get their money.Look how taxpayer bailed out and CEO's and etc got paid royal for screwing everyone. Talk about stupid voters that support it. Look all countries are doing same to keep wealthy from being killed like in the Dark Ages. Masses have less and poor get poor. The underground bunkers are for them so atomic weapons can be turned on mass population.

Anonymous said...

Diogenes.
I feel sorry for you that you can't see the truth!
May God Bless Your life so much that you continue to not see reality that you're naive enough to believe in your own drivel.

Anonymous said...

Diogenes said: This has all the makings of a bogus internet lie.

Go to: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/breadwinner.htm

This verifies "truth" or "fiction."

It's sad how our country continues to decline from both white collar crime at the top, and welfare fraud at the bottom.

Anonymous said...

To Diogenes,
You should check out the TruthorFiction site, then let us know what you think:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/breadwinner.htm

Anonymous said...

So if the truth or fiction website says it's true then it has to be. No one's ever heard of the site, but if they say it's true..

Denny and Joni said...

Dear Diogenes,

Eat this...

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/breadwinner.htm

Anonymous said...

Diogenes is correct: ALL of you need to read this:
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/12/fostering-a-fortune/

Kev said...

totally bogus story!
Just more hate fuel for "Dittoheads"
Here is the truth...

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/12/fostering-a-fortune/

Anonymous said...

KEV, no it's not a totally bogus story. It's an exaggerated story...the amount of money the grandmother receives is exaggerated, but the story is more than likely all too true. Read the entire report at the FactCheck website you provided. Millions of deadbeat, low-life, ghetto trash are milking the system and we taxpayers are footing the bill. It's sickening!!! I agree that there is plenty of waste being perpetrated by the right wing, as well, but that doesn't make this story totally bogus. It's time to wake up! We taxpayers are fools. It's time to put an end to welfare programs as well as government handouts to corporations such as the stimulus packages that Obama and Bush provided! It's time to wake up, people!

f4c_1 said...

So if the gal had 8 kids and grandma got paid for them, she must of been real busy to have all of them during the Obama Administration.

Anonymous said...

I am the single parent of 2 boys - 11 and 21. The first was born when I was 17. I can tell you first hand that I lived this story, except for the amounts - it's not $1500 a month, or $144K a year. It's less, but these people don't care about the amount, they care about not having to get a job. Period. I spent time in jail because the grandmother in my situation made that call to get her money, so they came after me and hauled me into jail as a deadbeat - 20 years later, I have sole custody of both of them with no support.

The grandmother got a huge increase in her welfare check because my son was born, even though I supported him then and all the way till now. I was as liberal as they come way back in the day, now I'm apparently a "neo-con" because I tell it like it is.

One request: Read 2 books - "1984" and "Capitalism". If you don't get it after that, there is no hope for you. This stuff is happening and it's truly frightening to me that there are people that believe it's some kind of left/right wing thing. Just because Haliburton is what it is doesn't make this OK...

Anonymous said...

If anyone does not think that this Grandmother-Daughter baby scam does not exist, better think again. I know people who work the system to a degree that should make any honest person sick. If you do not think that benefits that should go to American taxpayers are not being waylaid to people who are here illegally, just remember the Census Tv Ads that pleaded with the Illegals to be counted so that the Federal and State Governments could provide
enough money for them. Just where do you think this money comes from? Why do you think that you read in the Newspaper, and hear on the news that someone with 8 kids is leaving their kids in filth and sqaulor? I do not know if all the acqusations in the Drs. claim are accurate, but with the rate in which ID theft is occuring, and the prime areas that is seems to come from, I think that we are all being scammed by the system. I think that when a daughter produces 8 children that she can not support , in order to prevent this kind of fraud, the grandmother should not be able to take them on, and be compensated by the Foster Parent system. By not allowing it, there would be no incentive to have baby after baby. Just because they would be with a family relative, does not mean that the money would go for the welfare of the kids. I tried to get financial info on exactly how much would be paid to a foster parent in Ill, and it is very vague at best. Even if they do not get $1500.00 per child(which did sound like it was inflated ), without the ability to get the transparent info from DCFS we really do not know how Much they are being paid, and how much other money for benefits are involved that the taxpayer is being billed for. If dcfs published a schedule of finances that would be given if you became a foster parent, things like this story might not spread far. I tend to believe that there is extreme abuse of The foster parent program, just because DCFS makes it too hard for the people who are paying for this to get info on just what it is costing them.

Curtis Henderson said...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_ZcKmAYNw
No Consent To Adopt


www.youtube.com/watch?v=27uXWLC4Z80The Grandmother Baby Scam

Curtis Henderson said...

The Adopted Grandmother Baby scam, a Grandmother who scams the baby mother and the baby father, the Grandmother use the babies for welfare fraud, I agree with this website on what these Grandparents & mothers are doing to buck the system, goggle: The Grandmother Baby Scam, check out part 1 to part 6 they dogged me out with my baby, then the Adopted Grandmother is trying to adopt my baby without my consent, this Grandmother is low down she is going to the extreme to faud papers to a Adoption Lawer to adopt my baby goggle: no consent to adopt

waggoner41 said...

It behooves one to fact-check any stories of this type circulated by email.

regarding the "breadwinner" see: http://www.factcheck.org/2010/12/fostering-a-fortune/

Regarding the "Obama phone" see: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_phone_free_cell_phones.htm among others. This legislation was passed in 1996 when both the House and the Senate were under Republican control.

Iamangry said...

I just got this in an unsolicited email from a "friend."

There s no truth to this claim and evidenced by some research. This is just racist claptrap running around the internet and usually believed as fact by lazy minds.

I am as fed up with government give aways as anyone, but that does not make it OK to accept as fact this kind of junk!

British reader said...

British reader. I just received an anglicized version of this circular. With the pound being worth around $1.50 you can imagine the gnashing of teeth over breakfast. I usually read Snopes, truthorfiction and various forums before I discuss any of these type of messages.

Passing on information without checking for truth is lazy and self limiting. Illinois has online information about welfare benefits. Apparently the urologist concerned either didn't check his sources or far worse, did check but thought that the original exaggeration had more impact.

In the UK we pay more tax than Americans. Welfare abuse usually only hits the national front pages in a sustained way when the Government of the day wants to change something about the welfare system. This is happening here now and the email circular (not the only one of it's type) must be coincidental in timing, right!!

As far as self-interest is concerned, if I was a poorly paid urologist who watched all his better paid colleagues driving Mercs and golfing on tax-payer dollars in the Caymens. I certainly would be complaining to Limbaugh (wonder how much tax he pays) instead of joining them. Perhaps it's not just the welfare that leaving our urologist with a nasty taste in his mouth but the relative honesty of his accountant.

Curtis Henderson said...

http://youtu.be/VB7CQLvjpR4
Curtis Talks About The Grandmother Baby Scam.

Curtis Henderson said...

http://youtu.be/VB7CQLvjpR4
Curtis talks about The Grandmother Baby Scam

Anonymous said...

We are in this situation because those who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Daniel Thorn said...

Diogenes ...you are literally retarded. How about you come out with some actual facts and formulate an argument that isn't fallacious;and does not comes off like a bitchy little girl. It might help if you had graduated from middle school, but I don't want to "judge" you on the fact you never had the benefit of learning past the 7th or 8th grade. Good luck working at McDonalds or some shit. I'll keep being rich, working hard for my money, and laughing at pansies like you. thank you for being the joke of the day.

Anonymous said...

Diogenes Continue learning all of your "facts" from CNN, NPR, and probably John Stuart; you sound just about that stupid. I will continue to go to one of the United States top 20 Universities and you will continue to be a moron somewhere (who gives a shit where) absolutely nobody does. Here are a few facts, a fact means something is real, and not made up in your head due to stupidity.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/734999_465226393524702_817360182_n.jpg

http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2010/08/welfare-scam-in-illinois.html

you are an idiot. I will not return to this post and i will not respond to anything you say. you are simply too dumb, sorry for you.

Anonymous said...

Try this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/breadwinner.asp
I see ananymous does not plan to retrun. Good way to avoid any mention of the truth.
Many years ago I worked in the office of a department store in CA. I, too, believed the welfare fraud story of mothers giving birth to make money. These mothers were given a type of credit card to buy clothing for their children. I believe there was a limit and other safety features. So, I came to see that I was probably wrong. If you want to believe, for instance, that the Democrats use this method to "BUY" votes nothing that anyone says will change your mind no matte how wrong you are. So, as long as you are in the minority, that's OK. Some welfare fraud no doubt does exist. Have a conversation with your state representatives. They are supposed to be guarding the bank. Anoymous anon.