The Left attempts to use the Bible to justify their socialist plan to "spread the wealth". But, their philosphy is not based on Scripture. Certainly, God expects us to help the poor, as well as those incapable of providing for themselves. However, never has the Bible stated that it is the government's job to determine how wealth is to be distributed. God's ideal is for the church to step up and take care of the needy.
For those who are unwilling to get off their lazy butts and work, and there are many of these individuals out there, even in good economic times, God has made it abundantly clear. "If a man will not work, he shall not eat" (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
In addition, liberals have a tendency to encourage those who aren't wealthy to be discontented with what they have. In reality, they are encouraging us to covet what our neighbor has, and that is clearly an affront to the teaching in the Ten Commandments: "Do not covet."
Read from One News Now:
Sorry, Mr. President: Socialism's not in the Bible
John Aman
"Having placed 50 percent of America's economy under government control, the Obama administration is now angling for a tighter grip on the financial sector.
The operative word is 'fairness,' which is shorthand for Obama's famous campaign promise to 'spread the wealth around.'
When critics said that this remark to 'Joe the Plumber' displayed Obama's socialist leanings, Obama justified it by citing Scripture:
'"My Bible tells me there is nothing wrong with helping other people," said then-Sen. Obama. "That we want to treat others like we want to be treated. That I am my brother's keeper, and I am my sister's keeper. I believe that."'
But Obama, who once dismissed the Bible's relevance to politics, saying, 'People haven't been reading their Bibles lately,' may need to go reread his Engels. Co-author with Karl Marx of The Communist Manifesto, Friedrich Engels knew better than Obama about collectivism's clash with Christianity, stating, '...if some few passages of the Bible may be favourable to Communism, the general spirit of its doctrines is, nevertheless, totally opposed to it ....'
Despite Engels and Marx (who dismissed religion as the 'opium of the people'), Obama and many others still manage to see socialism in the Bible. They point to the early church which, at first glance, seems like a model socialist community. The New Testament reports that these first believers 'had all things in common' (Acts 4:32) and 'all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need' (Acts 4:34-35).
But unlike socialism, the sharing was voluntary, not coerced, and the money was given not to the state, but the church. As Southern Baptist leader Richard Land puts it on the new Coral Ridge Ministries documentary, Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger, 'It's one thing for you to give out of compassion to someone who's less fortunate. It's an entirely different thing for the government to confiscate your property and give it to someone else.' (Part 2 of the documentary airs Sunday, May 23, nationwide on The Coral Ridge Hour.)
While the Bible asserts property rights and the rights of inheritance, socialism assaults them. Marx and Engels put the 'abolition of property' first in a ten-step program for implementing communism. That's not exactly a Christian thing to do. The eighth commandment, 'You shall not steal' (Exodus 20:15) applies every bit as much to the men and women who hold the reins of political power as it does to everyone else.
So does the 10th commandment, 'You shall not covet' (Exodus 20:17). Coveting, or envy, is a powerful driver of socialism, which is in a perpetual snit that some people have more than others. So when President Obama castigates 'Fats Cats' on Wall Street, decries 'economic inequality,' and warns, as he did in his 2009 budget statement that a 'disproportionate share of the nation's wealth has been accumulated by the very wealthy,' he stokes a destructive impulse that is condemned by Scripture.
Socialism also runs afoul of the first commandment, 'You shall have no other gods before Me' (Exodus 20:3). Socialist governments seek to play God — to take His place as the ultimate sovereign. Consider the veneration that Russians once gave to the embalmed remains of Lenin and Stalin, the Nazi-prescribed prayer to Hitler ('Thy Reich [kingdom] comes, thy will alone is law upon the earth'), and the personality cult surrounding North Korea's 'Dear Leader,' Kim Jong-il.
The sixth commandment, 'You shall not murder,' is also widely ignored by Marxist regimes. Marx and Engels proclaimed that their aims could be 'attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.' Their disciples, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and other communist henchmen, killed 100-million people, a 'tragedy of planetary dimensions,' as the French publisher of The Black Book of Communism put it.
Barack Obama may say that the Bible tells him to be his brother's keeper (his youngest half-brother reportedly lived in a shack in Kenya on $1 a day at the time he said this), but he ought to go back and reread what God's Word actually says. Engels was right. Socialism has nothing in common with Scripture."
I watched the 2-part documentary from Coral Ridge Ministries, "Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger", and it was fabulous. I highly recommend viewing it.
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For once, I agree with you. Socialism isn't in the Bible.
But neither is capitalism.
Quit trying to force your political views into the Bible. It's sacrilegious and a misuse of Scripture.
Diogenes, it's your side which is distorting the Bible. I happen to be just correcting their lies. Somehow, I think I've spent more time in God's Word than Obama has.
If you think the Bible supports capitalism, or ANY political theory, you need to quit, Little Miss Holier-Than-Thou. You didn't hear Obama saying the Bible supports communism OR capitalism, did you?
Obama said, "I am my brother's keeper," while pushing for his healthcare rationing bill, implying that we should be responsible for paying for others' healthcare. That's spreading wealth around, and that's a socialistic practice. And yes, he was using the Bible to make his case.
http://www.examiner.com/x-4840-Orlando-Bible-Study-Examiner~y2009m8d21-Obama-on-healthcare-reform-I-am-my-brothers-keeper
Ironically, he has a Kenyan half-brother living in poverty who he has not bothered to help.
The Bible supports working hard to get ahead. If "you don't work, you don't eat" doesn't sound like a socialist program to me.
What a damned hypocrite you are! Citing some obscure comment from Paul while ignoring Jesus Himself?
Matthew 22: 37-40
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
Luke 6:31:
"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."
How can a supposed Christian like yourself ignore the very very very basic message of Jesus Christ and piously cite Paul to the contrary?
You should be ashamed. Very very ashamed.
Yes, Diogenes, we are to love our neighbors and help those in need. I have never disputed this. But, we are not to help those who are capable of working, but refuse to, and that is exactly what is happening in many cases. If Jesus supported laziness and entitlements, the Bible would never have stated that those who don't work should not eat. You're in spin mode once again twisting what I've consistently said.
We Christians, whom you despise, are the most generous people in the country. It's you liberals who are tight with your money.
If you bothered to study political science at all, you'd know that socialism doesn't support "laziness" either. Socialism doesn't support those that are capable of working, but won't. (In fact, socialism doesn't ALLOW capable people to not work!) So -- ONCE AGAIN -- the Bible doesn't support ANY poltiical theory, be it socialism or capitalsim. That's just you trying to (inappropriately) show off your piety again.
And for you to suggest that those who receive governmental assistance of any type are "lazy" is not only heartless, but inaccurate. It's a sterotype of days gone by.
Keep patting yourself on the back for being such a good Christian, Ms. MooreLies. Quote Paul some more, and ignore the words of Jesus. I'm sure He won't mind you twisting His message!
Ms. Moore, never mind the bigoted narrow mindedness. Diogenes seems to be somewhat deficient in ability to effectively argue his points. He will then revert to the glib name calling that I have noted the few times I visit the site.
This tactic of the left is used quite successfully, unfortunately. Baiting the "rightwingnuts" (Rush) into name calling prevents an honest discussion into the weaknesses of the leftist position.
As to distorting the Bible, of course he/she does! It is more baiting. He/she has turned the tables and accused you of his own crime!
Neither political philosophy is expressed in the Bible. However, you will find that capitalism is more compatable with the religious teachings of the God of Abraham than is socialism.
Keep in mind that socialism becomes activly punitive to those that don't work. Capitalism does not reward those that don't work. The difference is freedom of choice which God allows and socialist tyrants don't
So if we all allow our all knowing and powerful gov't to spread social justice and equality to all, then we will all go to heaven? The liberals have exploited the poor and ignorant for decades, which is how they have gained power over the years. They have created a vast network of victims who blindly vote for them time after time. These crooked politicians care for nothing but their own survival and standing. Do you honestly think this is about God's work? No, it's about power and greed and both sides of the isle are guilty.
eric, do you realize that you supported my contention, not Ms. MooreLies'? You said "Keep in mind that socialism becomes activly punitive to those that don't work. Capitalism does not reward those that don't work." Well, that's not what Ms. MooreLies said, eric. She's argued that "socialism" REWARDS the lazy, which is so antithetical to her perverse version of Christianity. She talks nonsense. And, to the extent that you don't want to acknowledge JESUS' words either, so do you.
The truly amazing thing is that I'm not espousing communism or socialism any more than President Obama does. That's just meaningless, mindless political rhetoric spewed forth from the likes of Rash Limbore and Hen Feckless and swallowed whole by the Ms. MooreLies of ths rightwingnut blogosphere.
And JD? You just don't get it, do you? This isn't about perfect equality for all, so that everybody gets to heaven. Don't be so overly simplistic.
This is about people actually GETTING the rights promised in the Declaration of Independence: the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Even from the moment Jefferson penned those words, they were a lie. What the Founding Fathers really meant was that all white men were created equals; no blacks nor women need apply. And, despite all the progress we've made as a nation since that time, we still haven't quite gotten to the point where all PEOPLE are created equal, each with the same ability to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That's what social justice is about... at least to me.
As for there being politicians on both sides of the aisle who take advantage of the poor, YOU GOT IT! It's much more about high SES (socioeconomic status) folks taking advantage of low SES people much more than it is about white vs. black, or even left vs. right. but there IS some correlation betweem left and right that is relevant.
Diogenes, you are beginning to foam at the mouth a bit. Baiting won’t work with me. I understand that a weak argument can often be strengthened with insult and attack. But it will only work when people engage in the fight. Interesting twist with the Jesus remark, though. Has that been successful in the past?
As far as what Ms. Moore said, you might notice that I did disagree with her. You really should calm yourself. Your apoplectic reaction may bring on a stroke. I understand that the left tends to be excitable when disagreed with but if your intent is to make this a better country you might be missing the mark.
What is it you do espouse? Hate? Insult? People like you and Rush concern me. Rush increases his bank account from his excesses. What do you gain?
This is a bit boring for me. I will look in every now and then but I don’t have the time to devote to fruitless discussions. Increase the meds or study more or both. That might help.
Oh, another one of those "oh, this bores me" types! Most of the dumbasses like AnonyMouse who comment here are merely stupid. You, on the other hand, affect airs and talk in circles, thinking it enlightens the masses and exhibits what you hope is mistaken for higher critical thinking skills. Sadly, you missed YOUR mark. If you think you've been attacked in some way, perhaps yo might develop a tougher hide, because I didn't attack you at all. As for the "Jesus remark", as you term it, if you read just a couple of Ms. MooreLies' posts, you'd realize that she repeatedly distorts Scripture to suit her rightwingnut claims. I will admit that, when you first commented, it sounded as if you thought you were supporting Ms. MooreLies' position on Scripture. Now, you claim you don't. In other words, you say whatever crosses your brain synapses and then turn on the fog machine, hoping to cover your tracks.
Hurry back, by all means, You can be assured that we'll all be waiting in breathless anticipation.
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