Saturday, January 9, 2010

Evidence Against Terrorist Tossed Out by Federal Judge

Welcome to the world of civilian trials for Islamic monsters. Wonder why patriotic Americans are concerned about bringing these Gitmo savages to trial on our homeland?

Read this, from Breitbart:

Judge tosses out most evidence on Gitmo detainee
By PETE YOST

WASHINGTON (AP) - "A federal judge has tossed out most of the government's evidence against a terrorism detainee on grounds his confessions were coerced, allegedly by U.S. forces, before he became a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay.

In a ruling this week, U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan also said the government failed to establish that 23 statements the detainee made to interrogators at Guantanamo Bay were untainted by the earlier coerced statements made while he was held under harsh conditions in Afghanistan.

However, the judge said statements he made during two military administrative hearings at the U.S. detention center in Cuba, where he was assisted by a personal representative, were reliable and sufficient to justify holding the detainee.

Musa'ab Omar Al Madhwani allegedly engaged in a 2 1/2-hour firefight with Pakistani authorities before his capture in a Karachi apartment in 2002.

The detainee says that after five days in a Pakistani prison, he was handed over to U.S. forces and flown to a pitch-black prison he believes was in Afghanistan. He says he was suspended in his cell by his left hand and that guards blasted his cell with music 24 hours a day.

He said that he confessed to whatever allegations his interrogators made and that harassment and threats continued after he was moved to a different prison in Afghanistan.

Al Madhwani said that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay on multiple occasions threatened him when he tried to retract what he now claims was a false confession.

The judge said he was particularly concerned that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay relied on or had access to the coerced confessions from Afghanistan made by Al Madhwani.

The logical inference from the record, said the judge, is that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay reviewed Al Madhwani's coerced confessions with him and asked him to make identical confessions.

'Far from being insulated from his coerced confessions, his Guantanamo confessions were thus derived from them,' Hogan wrote.

The judge said the government presented medical records about the detainee's debilitating physical and mental condition that confirm his claims of harsh treatment during the 40 days he spent in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Despite Hogan's concerns about the 23 statements, the judge relied on other evidence and three statements Al Madhwani made to a military tribunal and a review board to conclude that he trained, traveled and associated with members of al-Qaida, including high-level operatives. On those grounds, the judge ruled he is legally detained."


When will President Obama recognize that we are at war with an evil bunch of terrorists who have no scruples whatsoever? His approach to interrogating the enemy is to say, "Pretty please, will you tell us what you know?" That approach will not reap any life-saving results for Americans.

Is Obama this naive, or is he himself the enemy within? Inquiring minds would really like to know.

7 comments:

Diogenes said...

What NOW, Ms. Moore? Why is it that you just delete stuff you don't want to deal with, that dispute what you say? I didn't curse, I didn't use any nicknames for any rightwingnut ex-Vice Presidents -- NOTHING.

What's your problem now????

Debra Moore said...

I deleted 2 of your comments earlier today. I forget which one went with this post. One was for calling me a name, and the other was for using the "B" word. Clean them up, and I'll be happy to post them. But, stop the innocent act.

Diogenes said...

Give it a rest, will you? You don't squeak, you're not that clean. I call you a liar when you lied. What SHOULD you be called when you lie? You don't seem to otherwise have a moral aversion to the word "lie" considering the title of your blog!

What's good for the gander is good for the goose.

Anonymous said...

Diogenes: this is her board and she moderates is as she sees fit.

NOT HOW DIOGENES THINKS SHE SHOULD!!!

What part of that don’t you understand?

Diogenes said...

All I'm suggesting is a little consistency. If she has no problem using the term "lies" in her own blog title, then why should she have an aversion to being called a liar herself, especially when she is the one promoting the lies? What else should you call it? I'm sorry if it hurts her widdle feelings, but if it does, there's an easy answer: quit lying.

Anonymous said...

Diogenes: Most of the stories originate somewhere else, so why are you saying she’s lying?

Take your juvenile complaints to the source of the stories and stop wasting everybody’s time!

Debra Moore said...

Diogenes always calls me a liar when he can't refute what I've written. It's a tactic right out of "Rules for Radicals". If you can't make your case, smear your opponent.

I know I never intentionally lie, and God knows it. Do I care what Diogenes thinks? Frankly, no. He's just trying to discredit me. Like I have a great deal of influence. What a joke!

With all that I've written, there may be a few instances when the material I copied wasn't completely accurate. But, I would never intentionally lie.

Lying is the tactic used by Diogenes's hero: Obama, the man who rarely tells the truth. So, Diogenes's high and mighty attitude about truthfulness is ludicrous.