The Democrats are not stupid when it comes to Obama Care. They have not come right out and stated what their intentions are in many instances. But, discerning Americans are beginning to read between the lines. Obama Care really has little to do with health care for the uninsured, but is more about gaining control over a large segment of our economy.
Obama says that we will be able to keep our private insurance if we so choose. But, listen to what he had to say in the past when speaking to liberal supporters, via a video from Red State:
Then, there is the threat of rationed care and ending medical treatment for the elderly. Obama and his minions promise no such thing will happen. Well, guess what? That’s already being tried in Oregon for the purpose of saving money. Can we honestly expect anything less from Obama Care when the president has already stated that he wants to cut Medicare costs? Watch this video via Hot Air:
And a little common sense from Dick Morris:
‘REFORM’ AT SENIORS’ EXPENSE
“The health-reform debate on Capitol Hill is skipping over the key issue: ‘Universal insurance’ means less care for people who have coverage now — especially the elderly.
And the ‘compromises’ now under way only make the problem worse.
Here’s a point that’s no surprise except to the ‘reformers‘: People with insurance use more health care.
President Obama seeks to cover 50 million new people. Where are the extra doctors, nurses and so on going to come from? Neither the administration nor anyone on the Hill has proposed anything to add to the supply of medical services even as they plan vastly to increase the demand.
The politicians are playing a Washington game — compromising on false or tangential issues while failing to address the central one.
It doesn’t matter if you reduce or eliminate the mandate for employers to provide coverage, if you’re still insuring more people without adding medical personnel and other resources. Same story for whether you replace the ‘public option’ government-run plan with government-run ‘co-ops.’
More, all the bills come up with cash to cover their huge costs by ordering cuts in Medicare — cuts that Congress could reverse only by affirmative majority votes. Basically, the government will be paying doctors and providers even less to treat the elderly — at a time when countless doctors are starting to refuse new Medicare patients.
More demand; no added supply; Medicare cuts: It all adds up to rationing — lower-quality medical care for most Americans, especially for the elderly.
A doctor in Massachusetts — where an Obama-style plan is already in place — recently told us that she now has to read 60 mammograms a day in the time she once spent on 45. ‘It keeps me up at night,‘ she told us, ‘that I might make a mistake, I am so rushed.’
For the elderly, it means less care, period. A federal health board will sit in judgment of medical procedures and protocols and impose guidelines on all providers for when to withhold certain kinds of care.
For example, the drug Avastin is widely used in America to treat advanced colon cancer. But it costs $50,000 a year — so Canada’s national-health system doesn’t permit its use. As a result, 41 percent of colon-cancer patients in Canada die each year, as opposed to 32 percent in the United States. (Canada’s average eight-month wait for colonoscopies, another result of national-health rationing, also contributes to the problem.)
Members of Congress will be home through August to test public opinion. It’s up to us to give them an earful.”
Unless, of course, they are hiding from their constituents.
Morris states, "Neither the administration nor anyone on the Hill has proposed anything to add to the supply of medical services even as they plan vastly to increase the demand."
No surprise. When have liberals ever understood the simple concept of supply and demand as taught in a basic Economics 101 course?
Monday, August 3, 2009
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"A doctor in Massachusetts — where an Obama-style plan is already in place — recently told us that she now has to read 60 mammograms a day in the time she once spent on 45."
THIS CANNOT BE! We all know -- and you've caught us on this one -- that things like mammograms would NEVER be approved under a Government Health Plan.
And I've given up... we just can't hide it anymore. Your relentless digging has uncovered the truth:
We want to kill old people.
And Republicans.
And fundamentalist evangelical Christians.
And white people (unless they're on the Approved Obama List").
And anybody that works for Faux News. Or watches Faux News. Ever. Even while channel-surfing.
And Kenyans. (We need to get those SOBs for releasing the President's "real" birth certificate!)
And Texans. Cuz they're generally obnoxious.
And then we'll deal with Rush and Sean and Glenn. We'll stake them down, one by one, in Kansas. And then attach cables to each arm and leg. And string the cables to the SC border of California, the NW border of Washington, the NE border of Maine, and the SE tip of Florida. And then we'll tighten those cables, a notch at a time, until we rip all for of them from limb to limb.
And THEN we'll issue them Medicare cards!
(I feel better now, now that our secret is out. Thanks, Ms. Moore!)
Diogenes,
As entertaining as your comment was, you seem to have missed the point with the mammogram thing. I don't think the author was immplying that there is a Democrat sponsored conspiracy going on to short string us on needed health care procedures because you guys are just republican, texan, talk radio hating lunatics...The point was that in Massachusetts a government run system is already in place...and having detrimental effects. So magnify one state's problems by 50, and you get the picture the whole country has to look forward to with socialized health care, as demonstrated in the words of a doctor herself from her experience (not speculation). Your over-the-top and sarcastic response just solidifies the claim many Republicans (I am not one by the way) make that Liberals often times just react based on emotional idealogic viewpoints, but don't take into account how things really work, in real life, with real numbers and real business and real economics. The only two government run healthcare programs in this country, medicare and medicaid, are totally bankrupt, incredibly inefficiant, beurocratic monstrocities. Do you really want these people telling you and your family what medicines and procedures you can have?...and what if you have a surgery that gets botched and you lose a limb...are you going to sue the government for malpractice? Something tells me they won't go for that. Do you realize that people from Canada and Europe fly over here to have medical procedures done that they can not get in their own countries because either they don't have the resources, the waiting list 6 months long, or the govermnet has actually refused to provide their care because ther isn't enough to go around, or they deem it a waste of money? Have you actually LOOKED at the figures and numbers and research that compares the results of countries that have given universal health care a go? here's a summary just in case you haven't had the chance: It's not working. If you increase demand without increasing supply, quality suffers and things get rationed. We have all seen this demonstrated by going into a business that is not staffed well. the employees are in a hurry, stressd out, underqualified, rude, and messing things up. This will be your healthcare soon, so be prepared to not get that bloodwork you ordered, be told "Im sorry we are out of that today" and get a side of mistakes with your crappy-care sandwich. We all agree improvements can be made, but having doctors speed-read through test results for a life threatening disease so they can fit everyone in is not an improvement, it's a set back, and just one of the many we can expect when people who went to school for politics start playing doctor. At least there is one benefit: I can look forward to a 30 second mammogram.
- thepants
well put
AHEFT shows African American health care has long been rationed by breeding us to limit our lives, so why should we pay for all those boomer pensions we will never benefit from? After all, it was the boomer pensions which caused the market to crash.
Here's a funny music video making fun of Obamacare, and the progressive view of their "New America:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibHFAXGUwo
Obama's and the democrat's health care bill don't fix the underlying problems of why health care, not just health insurance is expensive. It's because of too much insurance and subsidies from Medicare, etc. There is no competition in health care, because direct costs are not as much as an issue. Insurance is not a delivery system, it's a risk hedge against a future event that is too expensive to be afforded out of real income. Using insurance as a delivery system increases cost, as there is paper work having to be filed. Also because customers who use insurance for everyday purchases don't look for cheap prices, thus health care providers can't compete directly with one another, because price doesn't have a major influence on the consumer. Competition drives prices lower, and increases quality. Look at elective surgeries that are not covered by health insurance as an example. Despite a economic downturn, health care costs are still increasing. Drug companies, medical care providers make far more profits than health insurance, something the democrats intentionally look past, gives you an indication that insurance premiums is the reflection of health care costs, and spending, and not greedy insurance executives they try to paint them as. A radically pro-free market reform would do more good than this current bill.
I would also like to add is that regulations distort the prices of health insurance. Democrats insist there is many people without insurance not even distinguishing between those who prefer not to have health insurance because of expensive costs. Partitioning of insurance plans is utterly necessary to lower prices for healthy young individuals who practice healthy behavior. There is no plan that fits all without effecting the price. The tax code currently makes employer paid insurance benefiters winners and the individual health insurance customers the losers. Nobody gets fire insurance, car insurance from their employer, employees should purchase their own health insurance based on their own individual choices, and small business doesn't have the access to portable insurance like big business does. If Obama, and democrats really wanted to lower costs of health care, and insurance he could do so with free market reigning without a hit on deficit. That is not only freed up competitive medical care nationally, but internationally as well, thus regulations should be lifted that impede on efficiency, and only contracts should be enforced. Sure the Chinese can make cheap products, yet, we can't expect the same in health care, and insurance?
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