
America’s health care system obviously needs reformed. We are all outraged by the extraordinary costs of our medical care. But, how does our health care system compare to that of other nations?
Get some truths from the Hoover Institution, via the National Review Online:
Ten Reasons Why America’s Health Care System Is in Better Condition Than You Might Suppose
By Scott W. Atlas
“Medical care in the United States is derided as miserable compared to health care systems in the rest of the developed world. Economists, government officials, insurers, and academics beat the drum for a far larger government role in health care. Much of the public assumes that their arguments are sound because the calls for change are so ubiquitous and the topic so complex. Before we turn to government as the solution, however, we should consider some unheralded facts about America’s health care system.
1. Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the United Kingdom and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher.
2. Americans have lower cancer mortality rates than Canadians. Breast cancer mortality in Canada is 9 percent higher than in the United States, prostate cancer is 184 percent higher, and colon cancer among men is about 10 percent higher.
3. Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed countries. Some 56 percent of Americans who could benefit from statin drugs, which reduce cholesterol and protect against heart disease, are taking them. By comparison, of those patients who could benefit from these drugs, only 36 percent of the Dutch, 29 percent of the Swiss, 26 percent of Germans, 23 percent of Britons, and 17 percent of Italians receive them.
4. Americans have better access to preventive cancer screening than Canadians. Take the proportion of the appropriate-age population groups who have received recommended tests for breast, cervical, prostate, and colon cancer:
*Nine out of ten middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to fewer than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent).
*Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a Pap smear, compared to fewer than 90 percent of Canadians.
*More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a prostatespecific antigen (PSA) test, compared to fewer than one in six Canadians (16 percent).
*Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with fewer than one in twenty Canadians (5 percent).
5. Lower-income Americans are in better health than comparable Canadians. Twice as many American seniors with below-median incomes self-report ‘excellent’ health (11.7 percent) compared to Canadian seniors (5.8 percent). Conversely, white, young Canadian adults with below-median incomes are 20 percent more likely than lower-income Americans to describe their health as ‘fair or poor.’
6. Americans spend less time waiting for care than patients in Canada and the United Kingdom. Canadian and British patients wait about twice as long—sometimes more than a year—to see a specialist, have elective surgery such as hip replacements, or get radiation treatment for cancer. All told, 827,429 people are waiting for some type of procedure in Canada. In Britain, nearly 1.8 million people are waiting for a hospital admission or outpatient treatment.
7. People in countries with more government control of health care are highly dissatisfied and believe reform is needed. More than 70 percent of German, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, and British adults say their health system needs either ‘fundamental change’ or ‘complete rebuilding.’
8. Americans are more satisfied with the care they receive than Canadians. When asked about their own health care instead of the ‘health care system,’ more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared with only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).
9. Americans have better access to important new technologies such as medical imaging than do patients in Canada or Britain. An overwhelming majority of leading American physicians identify computerized tomography (CT) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) as the most important medical innovations for improving patient care during the previous decade—even as economists and policy makers unfamiliar with actual medical practice decry these techniques as wasteful. The United States has thirty-four CT scanners per million Americans, compared to twelve in Canada and eight in Britain. The United States has almost twenty-seven MRI machines per million people compared to about six per million in Canada and Britain.
10. Americans are responsible for the vast majority of all health care innovations. The top five U.S. hospitals conduct more clinical trials than all the hospitals in any other developed country. Since the mid- 1970s, the Nobel Prize in medicine or physiology has gone to U.S. residents more often than recipients from all other countries combined. In only five of the past thirty-four years did a scientist living in the United States not win or share in the prize. Most important recent medical innovations were developed in the United States.
Despite serious challenges, such as escalating costs and care for the uninsured, the U.S. health care system compares favorably to those in other developed countries.”
8 comments:
I suppose a few things should be pointed out:
1) Three of the 10 points refers to US cancer treatment. An area in which the US is commonly known to lead the world. That is good, but apparently it was impossible to find a full 10 areas where the US did well?
2) This report is a reprint. The original included references. Upon examination, it turned out that they were from suspect sources, or did not actually have anything to do with the subject, or concludes the exact opposite of what the author claimed.
Apparently the response was just to delete the references when it was next published.
(The author interned in 1982, I personally would speculate that he was not quite onboard with the notion that when writing for the internet, his references can be googled in a minute.)
3) The report was originally produced for the NCPA. It can be found here (With the actual references):
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
The NCPA is a "classic liberalist" think tank, whose board includes representatives from health insurance and medical malpractice lawfirms. Their latest quarterly can be found here:
http://www.ncpa.org/files/activities_2qrt09.pdf
There are a number of other problems with the report that the average student should be able to spot. Such as the deliberate selection of Canada for comparisons in waiting times. Canada is known to be the only country in the first world with longer waiting times than the US.
Thus "second worst in the first world" becomes something good.
Finding the rest of the issues this report has is left as an excercise for the students. (Hint: How relevant is the authors background?)
But anyone with an interest in exposing lies is recommended to take a look at the links that the author based his points on.
You might want to check out the references that article quoted. Just to, you know, make sure they actually say what the article claims they say:)
Original report is here.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649#_edn16
Funny thing is...you can google the information and those reports do support the claims in the study.
It's perfectly acceptable to compare to Canada since they are the closest example and since that is what the politicians want to emulate.
Socialized medicine kills people, that's an irrefutable fact.
Beware posters that post Anon, there is probably a reason why they don't want you to know who they are.
So...an essay that gets to cherry-pick its indicators, and select its own countries to compare them to.
If you can find one indicator that you can beat one country in, that means you are not dead last there. Not that you are best.
To be best, you need to compare yourself to everyone. Something this essay seems to fear deeply.
Basically, it tried to find ten areas the US is not dead last in, and only managed seven.
Pathetic.
I suppose that is why the real researchers find the US dead last in amendable mortality. (Deaths that would have been avoided if proper medical assistance had been given)
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Fund%20Report/2008/Jul/Why%20Not%20the%20Best%20%20Results%20from%20the%20National%20Scorecard%20on%20U%20S%20%20Health%20System%20Performance%20%202008/Why_Not_the_Best_national_scorecard_2008%20pdf.pdf
That is a lot of american lives lost every year.
"Beware posters that post Anon, there is probably a reason why they don't want you to know who they are."
Good advice, "ZombieHero". When someone posts as Anonymous, yo can't tell who they are. Unlike people like ZombieHero (or myself, for that matter) who are clearly identifiable. Except that..... ZombieHero has not posted here before, so for all anybody knows, "ZombieHero" could be yet another variation of "Anonymous"... maybe in the original Aramaic?
"Funny thing is...you can google the information and those reports do support the claims in the study."
I tried that. Looked up some. And...no. They don't support the claims at all.
Look at point 7). The report cited actually shows that people in the US are far more dissatisfied with their system, exceptionally so. The people with public systems are more satisfied by a wide margin.
In any case, the author gets to pick ten stats and compare them to his own selection of countries.
ANY system can look good when they get to do that. Thats the basic dishonesty. Beating Canada doesnt mean something is good. Beating everyone would mean I was good.
If this was the Olympics, and someone made a list claiming the US were the best country because "We beat Canada in swimming, the UK in sprints and Germany in weightlifting" They would be laughed out of town.
Everyone would be asking "Where are the medals? Where are the golds, silvers and bronzes?"
Getting to pick one guy you can beat in one thing just isn't that impressive.
I know one thing for sure, I do not trust the government to make the best health care decision, you should not either, if you really think the government can do the right think then why dont you go and get on medicaid, then perhaps you will see what it is like to have government health care.
As a life long user of the british health system with a respect for American democracy and commentary, I was appalled by the distorted description of the reality in the UK by some US opponents.
Today the UK Conservative Party leader David Cameron had to call a politician from his own party "eccentric" for the anti- NHS views quoted on Fox news. They drew huge ridicule from the british press. Cameron criticised his colleague because he knew British people don't agree with the severity of his criticisms.
Yes you have to wait a little longer, but not years ! and yes its a bit bureaucratic but so is everywhere.
The british system is free at the point of use, Service at accident and emergency is never denied and we don't exclude huge segments of our population from regular maintenance treatment.
In the UK if you lose your job or get very ill it does not provoke a financial crisis due to the costs of care. We are not fearful of ill healt.
Recently I've had free eye, teeth and ligament/joint treatments at little or no cost with no or little waiting times. So I won't going private any time soon.
Have an honest debate US - all of europe is'nt wrong about government involvement in healthcare !
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