How could we possibly forget this committed Christian brochure that Barack Obama used to convince the American people to believe that he was a man devoted to faith in Christ. Was that a complete farce, or what? America, I think you’ve been swindled.
Still searching for a church, are you, Mr. President?
Read from One News Now about how this “committed Christian” essentially mocks Christians who stand by the Word of God regarding homosexuality and says that we “hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes”. Does that not show contempt for God’s Word? You may be the leader of the free world, Mr. President, but you may not rewrite the Bible.
“A black evangelical Christian pastor and former NFL linebacker says there was ‘absolutely no truth in anything’ President Obama said in his speech to homosexuals in the East Room of the White House Monday.
President Obama promised LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) supporters Monday at a White House ‘gay pride’ celebration that he ‘will continue to be an ally and a champion’ for their agenda, once again vowing he will repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and the military's ‘don't ask, don't tell’ policy.
Ken Hutcherson, senior pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Washington state, says it is ‘a shame’ that the president is ‘supporting what destroys the family.’
‘There's absolutely no truth in anything he said, from beginning to the end,’ says Pastor Hutcherson. ‘There is no such thing as [a] biblical stance for homosexuality, if you use the Bible. If you want to use any other denomination, feel free -- but where I stand is...biblical; it is marriage between one man [and] one woman, and that is the relationship, heterosexual, that is ordained, blessed, and called by God.’
In his talk, Obama acknowledged that many Americans still disapprove of homosexuality. ‘There are still fellow citizens, perhaps neighbors or even family members and loved ones, who still hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes,’ he stated. (See related article) Hutcherson says those comments demonstrate the president has contempt for more than just conservative Christians.
‘I think this president has a disdain for anyone who disagrees with anything about him -- don't just limit it to Christians and conservatives,’ he remarks. ‘Brother, this man doesn't like anyone who doesn't think he's the smartest man in the world.’
Also from One News Now:
“Hutcherson expresses disgust with evangelicals who still support President Obama, despite his promotion of policies that are at odds with Scripture. He says such individuals are part of the ‘evangellyfish’ movement in America.
‘A person can be as black as a piece of coal, [but] if he goes against God's biblical views, I would not support him, I would not endorse him, I would not even give a smile in his direction so people could even think that I endorse him,’ he states, ‘because God is my God, the Bible is my playbook, and I run it the way it is written.’”
AMEN, brother.
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You just cannot grasp that your interpretation of the Bible cannot control American government, can you?
America has a secular government. We have many many Christians, but we also have people of other faiths, and people of no faith at all. They deserve to be treated fairly by our government. They have the option to be Christians and live according to the Bible, but they choose otherwise, and it would not be proper for our civil government to force them to ascribe to Biblical beliefs.
Please explain to me how my marriage to my wife would be threatened in any way if the civil government allows another man to marry a man, or another woman to marry a woman. No other heterosexual marriage threatens ours, so why would a homosexual marriage? Nobody's asking your church to condone a gay marriage; you're free to believe what you wish, and you're free to make sure that your church doesn't sanction gay marriages if they wish. And you're free to be disgusted by the idea of a homosexual relationship. But NOTHING is forced on you or your church.
The headline of your post, ironically, summarizes YOUR position quite well: still holding fast to worn arguments and old attitudes. If that's what you want to believe in, fine! You just shouldn't be allowed to force your belief system on others. And, for you holier-than-thou breed of rightwingnut evangelical uber-"Christians", that's a tough pill to swallow.
religion helps people take control of their lives. you dont have to take the bible literally, or any other religious book, because in the end it all preaches the same thing... know youself (caption from the matrix). but it is true. people who follow God closely tend to follow a similar lifestyle. they have a good attitude about life and they have a feeling of "control" over their life. mis-guided or not, religion teaches self discipline.
now i think everyone can agree "good christian" is someone who others might call a 'goody goody' or whatever. my point is, those type of people can make their own success and build their own world around them. when america had a uniform christian following, the basic moral fiber that the bible teaches is in almost the whole country. it isnt like that anymore. there are people in america who's own moral compass is so screwed up its amazing they find the bathroom at night to pee. and if you have so many different people at complete opposite ends of the moral spectrum, you get problems. a lot. and thats what america's problem is, and thats why christian's want to hold on to the good old days. citizens had more self discipline, and a greater respect for hard work. todays youth doesnt take pride in anything because they are unfocused and spending money like there's an unlimited amount going around. the path of least resistance. they say personal savings is higher than its been in decades, well amazing! its going up after everyone got broke. instead, those people with a focused life who aren't having problems now, are the ones going to bail us out of a 'recession'.
sorry but people have an un-dying faith in the federal government like its going to drop hundreds on your front step someday. the more you depend on yourself, the greater success you will have.
THAT IS A SIGN THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HANDLE MONEY AND DO NOT RESPECT A DOLLAR. and those unfocused and undiscplined people fall right into that category. so if religion helps you gain control of your life, and helps you to live by a higher standard, than good for you and i applaud you. but don't bang on religion because you dont have one. there are some people who have found their self reliance in other ways, be it sports, or school, or hobbies, whatever. but dont knock someone elses beliefs.
Nick, you're wandering.
I don't have any problem whatsoever in people having faith. I have faith. It certainly does help one get through life, and beyond. But one's faith is one's faith; it's not a mandate to impose that faith on anybody else. I can recommend it to someone, if I believe it will help them, but I cannot use the power of government to force it on them. THAT'S the difference.
its really not being forced on anyone though. people have the choice and freedom to follow whatever they want to (i've heard practices of smoking pot and chopping up squirrels in cermonies). but at the end of the day, if your not faithful to you, you wont make it in this society. so if thats forcing, yes america can force it. america directly requires you honor yourself and people around you to be a success (not just financially).
but i dont directly believe anyone is out there like, "christians get out of jail today, and muslims all have to live on an ice lake in minnesota from now on, and jews have a 90 cent tax on butter." i think people convince themselves our government has a religious bias. because our laws are primarily based on what else, the commandments. but... it was the thread that made up the moral "fiber" of this country for a very long time, so you cant expect it to die, especially when its hard to argue "it worked in the past"
Oh, come on, Nick, be honest. Our laws are not based on the Ten Commandments, as you say, but let's assume, for the sake of your argument, that they are. There are NO commandments about homosexuality, homosexual marriages, etc. That is strictly one interpretation of Old Testament scripture... in a book that also calls eating shellfish an "abomination" just like homosexuality. The rightwingnuts want to impose THEIR particular interpretation of Biblical values on our legal system. And that most certainly IS forcing their personal religious views on American society.
i'll buy that our laws are not directly based on the commandments. but throughout modern history (circa 33 A.D. - present) the basics of the bible has given us the idea of "right" and "wrong".
now the homosexual thing... aaahhh i dont buy thats the federal governments business, thats a state problem. hence why people can become married in certain states now. its not that much of an effort to take a trip there and get married, then return home.
see when you're debating with me things like, abortion and gay marriage, im very liberal about them, so im not a typical republican on those issues, because they deal with personal freedom which i support. but if these are the only two "religious" laws we have im missing your argument.
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